Shopify Collective — Automatic Payments debit timing vs a fulfilment hold

Hi, I’m a retailer on Shopify Collective, drop-shipping products imported from a
supplier’s Collective feed. I need to confirm exactly how Collective’s “Automatic
Payments” interacts with a fulfilment hold before I enable it.

Our setup:

  • Payment capture method is set to “Manually” (authorise at checkout, capture later).
  • A Shopify Flow captures payment after fraud/risk analysis (so orders are marked
    paid a little after they’re created, not at checkout).
  • We’ve added our OWN location to the imported Collective products, so for each
    order we can choose to fulfil from our own stock OR forward to the supplier via
    Collective.
  • A Shopify Flow places a HOLD on the Collective fulfilment order at order creation,
    so nothing auto-forwards to the supplier until we manually decide.
  • We are about to turn ON Collective “Automatic Payments”.

My questions:

  1. With Automatic Payments ON, when exactly is our Shopify Payments account debited
    for the supplier funds — at the moment the order is marked paid (captured), or
    only when the fulfilment request is actually sent to the supplier?

  2. If the Collective fulfilment order is ON HOLD at the moment the order is marked
    paid, is the debit still taken at marked-paid, or is it deferred until we release
    the hold and the fulfilment request is sent?

  3. If we release the hold but fulfil the order from our OWN location (so no
    fulfilment request is ever sent to the supplier via Collective), are we debited
    at all? If a debit was already taken at marked-paid, is it automatically
    reversed/refunded?

  4. Does placing a fulfilment hold on the Collective fulfilment order reliably prevent
    the automatic fulfilment request being sent to the supplier (the ~2-minute
    post-payment auto-forward)?

Thanks — I want to be certain that holding an order means no supplier debit occurs
until I choose to release it to them. If I self-fulfull it, i want the supplier to have no interaction or knowledge of the order.

Hi, these forums are for developers using Shopify API’s, I’d advise either reaching out to Shopify Support or posting over on the merchant forums: